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"I was like, 'You're interesting to me.' And then she wouldn't give me her phone number, which made me even more interested."Ego, Independence and Submission In part two of their discussion, the men touched on issues of sex and intimacy and their thoughts on submission in marriage."Could you all help us to understand how critical the care of your ego is? Jerry Shirer jumped in, stating, "I think the bottom line is this, the Bible is very clear: women honor your husbands; husbands love your wives. I mean, He created it, so it is there."Whittaker said that for him, it was a matter of being appreciated and acknowledged for who he is by his wife.He said, "I really want to be known, and I think my ego is more about Carlos wanting to be known by who I think I am or who Christ has created me to be."He added, "I think there is something in that, and as human beings I think that's OK."It's not endearing at all," he said, adding, "We were built for that, to pursue, and if it flips I'm like, 'Nah, I'm good.'"So how does a woman show she might be interested in a man without "putting herself out there too far? According to Whittaker, married for 13 years and occasionally on the road, there is the universal "look" a woman might give to signal her interest in a man."It just takes a look.If you cast that one look from somebody, you know they're interested.It's like, 'run away.'"He added, "It doesn't have to be overtly this really loud thing.It can be really subtle, I think."Michael Jr., who has been married for nine years, chimed in, stating, "I think it's really unattractive when a woman is doing too much to be attractive.
"As a married man, when I'm on the road, I even have to look for that look …
There's a bunch of lazy, childish, 30-year-old men out there that need to step up and need to pursue, as opposed to think everything's going to come to them."He added, "I think you're starting to see relationships beginning to fail because both men and women that grew up in this entitled generation are just kind of expecting it to happen because everything else was given to them.
They don't realize they gotta actually put some work into it."In another part of the discussion on "What Men Wished Women Knew," Shirer asked Evans to name the "top three things that would cause you to want to be in a committed, married relationship with a woman?
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Sex is one of those, but it's not always necessarily for me [that] it takes that expression to communicate intimacy. It's not the only way."Evans shared his perspective on "the importance of sex to a single, Christian male.""As a Christian male, the way we were raised, I consider it to be something sacred and something I want to experience with my wife.